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Church Chat

May 9, 2019

My guest this episode is Trey Finley, Executive Director of eleven:28 ministries which helps leaders and organizations develop rhythms for soul care. We talk about what soul care is, why it’s so important yet why it is lacking, and how leaders and churches can find the soul support they need. Download the Show Notes...


May 2, 2019

Three years ago, a group of 12 pastors in a small town in North Carolina — six black, six white — began meeting together to read through a book about racism. The conversations transformed the participants, their churches, and their community. Listen to my interview with the Revs. Dr. Joseph Bryant, Peter Dodge, and...


Apr 25, 2019

In this episode I talk to Lee Eclov, Pastor at Village Church of Lincolnshire in the Chicago suburbs. We talk about how pastoring a non-growing church has challenged and changed his perspective of leadership, his worth, and church metrics. Download the Show Notes for key points, questions for consideration and...


Apr 18, 2019

In this episode I talk with Bud Wrenn, Pastor at Integrity Community Church in Burlington, NC and Principal at Pinnacle Consulting Group. We discuss the importance of understanding and leading at various “levels” of organizational planning. Download the Show Notes for key points, questions for consideration and...


Apr 11, 2019

My guest this episode is Dr. Scott Douglas, Pastor at Emmanuel Bible Church in Bradenton, FL. Scott talks about what it means to “lead up”: moving from the “second chair” to the lead pastor role, leading when you are much younger than the majority of your congregation, and the challenges and opportunities of...